While the subject of Roe v. Wade is still being debated and the Supreme Court has not made an official ruling, Democrats are already protesting in D.C. thanks to a leaked document showing SCOTUS overturning the highly controversial case. With key Democrats like Elizabeth Warren stomping around D.C., shaking her first and giving fiery speeches, Fox News anchor Martha MacCallum found herself being a referee for both Richard Goodstein and Pete Hegseth after they exchanged heated words about abortion and what is being labeled the “ultra-MAGA agenda”. 

As can be seen in the video below, MacCallum asked the guests, “Is it wise. Is it politically wise? You have a lot of people who live in the suburbs a lot of independent voters, like 70%, that have a disapproval for this president. Is it wise to do sort of the ‘basket of deplorables’ plan here? Is that smart on the part of this president?” 

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A former advisor to both Hillary Clinton and former President Bill Clinton, Goodstein stated, “That’s not what he said at all. He said, you know, the police are the good guys. Donald Trump watched the police get their heads bashed in —” 

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He was quickly interrupted by Hegseth, who noted, “Back to January 6. Go to the talking point. Go to the talking point. Did you say the same thing about the rioters and the BLM protesters?”

Trying to get his answer in, Goodstein was interrupted again after saying, “They burned a Biden headquarters, too, so to lay them at the feet of Democrats is nonsense. So the fact of the matter is, Martha, to answer your question —”

The debate didn’t stop there as Goodstein argued than many states have already placed a ban on abortions with no exceptions. Still, Hegseth continued, “You’re the party that runs around yelling ‘Democracy dies in darkness,’ Democracy is the people voting — the closest voting to the people is the most effective —”

With interrupting becoming the main theme, Goodstein interjected, “And Martha’s question, is that a way to reach independents, the answer is they are freaked out at the notion that those laws could become law.”

Going back and forth with not a person able to get a coherent thought in, MacCallum concluded, “We have a fair forum here. I’m going to keep that because I want to see — when it comes time to vote, I want to see what independents actually do. That’s what is going to be so fascinating about watching this mid-term process, because how do they feel? What is more important to them? Inflation or what is happening at the Supreme Court. We’ll see. We’ll see what they decide.”